tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post3236949950269774762..comments2024-02-25T02:24:14.972-08:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Full-fat Dairy for Cardiovascular Health??Stephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-49577623987202903672016-02-12T07:43:16.081-08:002016-02-12T07:43:16.081-08:00Any comments on what I have read about the intake ...Any comments on what I have read about the intake of milk and dioxin being found in cows milk? Also opinions on which is healthier organic milk or grass fed milk? I live in California and was delighted to find grass fed organic milk at a local health food store. I researched on the computer and came up with the disturbing news that Dioxin is being found in milk. The dairy cattle were found to keep a high level of dioxin in the mammary glands. I have cardiovascular disease and have always drank a wonderful cold glass of milk daily. I do not use margarine, only butter. I quit drinking milk for awhile and cholesterol count was still high. I do not want to be on medication for high cholesterol and would prefer to control cholesterol problem with a change in diet. I began drinking milk again and my cholesterol count has dropped significantly. Enough that my cardiologist see's no reason to put me on cholesterol controlling drugs. It is a bit high but nothing he is overly concerned with. Any opinions out there in regards to Dioxin in cows milk would be greatly appreciated.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-11069793766769514642012-12-12T08:52:53.729-08:002012-12-12T08:52:53.729-08:00Do fat soluble vitamins only come from animal sour...Do fat soluble vitamins only come from animal sources and fish? Vitamin A, K, E are found in veggies. Do these absorb as well or different to fat sources from animals and fish? I'm trying to come up with a compelling argument as to why someone should not be vegan.katyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01248965631175204708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-57875951682985565122012-03-13T16:58:42.543-07:002012-03-13T16:58:42.543-07:00Found this study:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/82/...Found this study:<br /><br />http://www.ajcn.org/content/82/4/894.long<br /><br />Conclusion: These prospective data suggest that high intakes of high-fat dairy foods and CLA may reduce the risk of colorectal cancer.Snowcoyotehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14759088497718132215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-54831877542676543902012-03-08T10:17:58.469-08:002012-03-08T10:17:58.469-08:00What than about pasteurization which is proven do ...What than about pasteurization which is proven do destroy nearly all vitamins, denaturing the proteins, demaging the minerals and so on. Homogenization destroys the milk further, also making the fat globules small which increases their polarity and surface area. The homogenized fat globules now encapsulating the enzyme xanthine oxidase, enabeling it to get threw the digestion in to the blood stream, there freeing the XO for absorption into the body, including the heart and artery tissues, where it may interact with and destroy plasmalogen. XO from dairy is not moleculary the same as the human XO, and it has nothing to do in the blood circulation, only making problems when it arrives there. Something to concider? Raw milk solves all problems, specialy if it comes from naturally fed cows, and even better if naturallt fermented. Dairy fat is very valuable, but we have to take in to consideration what the industry are doing to the raw material, and what problems it causes.Christerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00544087258440513319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-6410925233449743332011-01-20T18:52:16.785-08:002011-01-20T18:52:16.785-08:00I agree with the notion that full-fat is healthier...I agree with the notion that full-fat is healthier than non or low-fat. I've been doing research on this topic ever since I started drinking full-fat raw milk from my local farmer's market. There are many essential nutrients in raw milk that are destroyed during the process of pasteurization. This includes an enzyme that helps us digest the lactose in the milk, and an enzyme that accelerates the absorption of calcium. I go raw now, entirely. I've read that full-fat is healthier in that it controls your appetite, leaving you satisfied and fuller, longer. <br /><br />Your body responds the same way with non or low-fat milk as it does with full-fat. When your tongue tastes the milk, it tells the stomach that it's about to get a dense amount of calories in the form of fat. So, it digests both the same. However, when your body tries to digest the low-fat milk, it becomes confused as to why it is not receiving the calories it was promised. It then responds with more hunger, craving the calories it hasn't received. <br /><br />I believe this whole-heartedly, and my teacher once told me a story that sunk this fact in deeper. While he was visiting in Iceland, he was given fermented whale blubber. He said it tasted horrible, but it gave him energy for three days. He didn't eat anything during this three-day period, while hiking across the countryside. He told me that he had the most energy he's ever felt in his life. Whale blubber is ridiculously full of fat, and I wonder about how the fermentation affected the nutrient content.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-40255304739009011952010-07-01T02:43:30.369-07:002010-07-01T02:43:30.369-07:00You point are genuie and was looking for the sameYou point are genuie and was looking for the sameUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15242333776000259319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-6803856269667332832010-06-09T08:22:10.839-07:002010-06-09T08:22:10.839-07:00Can't remember who, but someone who damn well ...Can't remember who, but someone who damn well ought to know better showed surprise in a study that milk but not cheese or butter raised blood glucose.<br /><br />Huh??? It's a pretty effective hypostop. The carbs are absent in butter and cheese obviously.<br /><br />Perversely I prefer skim milk, purely for the flavour, but I only use it to whiten my coffee. I've taken to eating real butter and cheese in profusion, all the advantages without the disadvantage.<br /><br />Holsteins are huge milk producing machines but so fragile they hardly have any resources left to maintain their own bodies. Some of our dairy farmers are returning to earlier varieties which may yield less but the milk quality is far higher and the input costs, particularly vet bills, are significantly lower. Using their output to produce quality cheese makes them comparatively profitable (or less loss-making).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-17230650854366872962010-06-04T22:31:57.294-07:002010-06-04T22:31:57.294-07:00My favorite milk is raw milk. Thankfully it is av...My favorite milk is raw milk. Thankfully it is available in California, though few people are aware of its flavor and health benefits. Sadly, the ones that do know often hesitate to buy it because it's about three times more expensive. I hope more people become aware of this complete food.woof nannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10585916446298818033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-48803586792280908922010-06-01T06:44:15.208-07:002010-06-01T06:44:15.208-07:00@ Grassfed Buffalo dairy
i know 4 local Buffallo ...@ Grassfed Buffalo dairy<br /><br />i know 4 local Buffallo dairy farms (Germany) and all of them are superior to normal Cows Milk, but they are not 100 % grass fed. All Farmers add grains to be more economic. Yes, Buffalos are healthier and eat more Grass, but i'm very skeptic about the grass fed idea. You really need to aks those farmers and most will answer NO! <br />It's not enough to read on their Homepages, that their Cows live on green Land. Grass Fed is mostly wishful thinking by customers.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01929362650117780679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-1888524592405188852010-05-31T22:15:20.752-07:002010-05-31T22:15:20.752-07:00@antispirit,kindke,ed,sarah,zach,bizj,phulbert,hel...@antispirit,kindke,ed,sarah,zach,bizj,phulbert,helen... <em>Sustainability.</em> does that word cross your minds?Pacohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04062353315352442860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-32342171160245611882010-05-02T05:25:43.230-07:002010-05-02T05:25:43.230-07:00Great site. Glad I found it. I have never used low...Great site. Glad I found it. I have never used low fat dairy as I can't stand the chalky taste and texture. I feel vindicated.graciegrannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13016186086610426215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-44878597064114868582010-04-17T12:24:22.325-07:002010-04-17T12:24:22.325-07:00prophets,
There are some studies showing that CLA...prophets,<br /><br />There are some studies showing that CLA downregulates IGF-1 receptor levels in cancer cells and therefore inhibits the growth of the cells. There is also a suggestion that CLA could decrease IGF-I production in the liver and other tissues and thereby reduce serum levels of IGF.<br /><br /> http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/8/2675 <br /><br />An explanation of why consumption low-fat milk is positively correlated with cancer, while there is none or a negative correlation with consumption of whole milk, can be due to the IGF-1 stimulating effect, but any adverse effect from this is in whole milk counteracted by its CLA content. It's also a point that milk from grain-fed cows have less CLA and more omega 6 than milk from grass-fed cows.<br /><br />I'm quite sure that good quality milk does not promote cancer, but is protective. The physicians that used the raw milk diet in treatment of various diseases, reported that cancer patients improved on the exclusive milk diet. There are also stories from Bernard Jensen and others that had cured themselves from cancer by drinking goat milk.<br /><br />Milk is not the only thing that stimulates IGF-1 production, and this might not be all bad either. In one study, administration of rh IGF-1 was shown to improve the glycemic control and insulin action in some selected patients with severe insulin resistance. <br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8027228<br /><br />Back in the days of the milk cure diet, Arthur Scott Donkin used raw skim milk in the treatment of diabetes. And we have the statement by Ray Peat that unsaturated fats are essential for cancer, and butter don't promote tumor growth, so I think no kind of milk cause cancer as long as the PUFA intake is low. People that get cancer from drinking low-fat milk, probably eat too much PUFA, since that is likely what they will end up doing when they restrict the consumption of saturated fat.<br /><br />Consumption of low-fat dairy is also found to be linked to increased risk of infertility while there is a reduced risk for high fat dairy. A study also found that low fat milk had a higher association with acne than whole milk. <br /><br />http://www.healthy.net/scr/Column.aspx?Id=983&ColumnId=31<br /><br />One reason it is not good to take away the fat from the milk, is that vitamin A is required for protein utilization. So by eating a lot of protein without eating enough vitamin A, the body depletes its vitamin A reserves. Vitamin A has for instance shown to act as inhibitor of prostate cancer. Hence many low-fat dairy products are made less healthy, because they are often fortified with extra protein to improve the consistency when the fat is removed. This might also stimulate IGF-1 production even more than what ordinary skimmed milk would.Fjorarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09911371844348562786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-14279985785758058642010-04-16T08:13:25.793-07:002010-04-16T08:13:25.793-07:00A crappy study; but no association with obesity.
...A crappy study; but no association with obesity.<br /><br />Prospective association between milk intake and adiposity in preschool-aged children<br /><br />http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jada.2009.12.025Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448196524728777907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-22121422501438640272010-04-16T03:22:57.445-07:002010-04-16T03:22:57.445-07:00healthtec -
You make so much sense.healthtec - <br /><br />You make so much sense.Mavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994797939492751433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-16369921149163789022010-04-15T20:06:47.964-07:002010-04-15T20:06:47.964-07:00A fat less healthy diet is always advised and crea...A fat less healthy diet is always advised and creamy dairy products and cardiovascular has long shown negative impacts on the body.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.healthtec-software.com/electronic-medical-records.htm" rel="nofollow">Electronic Medical Records</a>Healthtec Softwarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13070460733184099472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-78072645625775978022010-04-15T13:49:02.657-07:002010-04-15T13:49:02.657-07:00Ah, so Julia Child was right all along. Thank good...Ah, so Julia Child was right all along. Thank goodness I have never bought margarine, mainly because it doesn't taste good or melt properly for use with and on food.Tom Gossardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06860616571426413692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-34307301218022604782010-04-14T12:03:28.520-07:002010-04-14T12:03:28.520-07:00Helen,
Is is near impossible to get decent milk f...Helen,<br /><br />Is is near impossible to get decent milk from pasture fed animals in most of the country. The so called "organic" milk that is ultra-pasteurized is worse than "regular" pasteurized milk in my opinion.<br /><br />In the absence of decent milk I rely on aged cheese and butter which is more easily shipped and stored. The problems associated with lactose and A-1 beta casein are virtually eliminated in aged cheese and butter. <br /><br />Raw milk cheese that is aged 60 days or more can be legally shipped across state lines.One of my sources of aged raw milk cheese is Next Generation Dairy, a coop of small farms in Wisconsin. They process their cheese at 102 degrees F, the same temperature that the milk comes out of the cow, so enzymes are not destroyed. The cost of their cheese is modest but choices are limited to cheddar and Colby with various herbs such as garlic added. I usually buy ten pounds at a time in half pound packages. Aged cheese is rich in vitamin K2. It has also occurred to me that the studies by Weston Price 80 years ago found that butter from Wisconsin and nearby states was very high in vitamins A and K2 compared to other areas of the country.<br /><br />I also buy aged cheese and butter from many of the farmers that advertise in the WAPF journal. I also have an excellent source of artisan cheese here in L.A. (lower Alabama), which is Sweet Home Farm in Elberta, Alabama. They make a big variety of delicious cheese from milk of their grass fed Guernsey cows. They don't ship, however, so I have to go get it, a 60 mile round trip.<br /><br />Butter is no problem as it does not matter so much if it is pasteurized. Kerry Gold Irish butter is available in the grocery store and Organic Valley "Spring, summer" pasture butter is available at the local food store.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-76786681630833688972010-04-14T10:34:28.236-07:002010-04-14T10:34:28.236-07:00Don't know if you saw this study
Diet found t...Don't know if you saw this study<br /> <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/apr/13/eating-salads-fish-could-help-prevent-alzheimers/" rel="nofollow">Diet found to cut risk of Alzheimer's</a><br />but I wanted to ask - is it safe to assume as I generally do that studies like this that claim sat fats are bad guys show these results because the people involved are most likely eating processed or adulterated or grainfed versions of them?Grace 77x7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12196426356956531520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-87586304518791214192010-04-13T17:06:32.791-07:002010-04-13T17:06:32.791-07:00Helen,
I get low temp pasteurized, non homogenize...Helen,<br /><br />I get low temp pasteurized, non homogenized, organic grassfed milk,cream, yogurt and sour cream by Farmer's All Natural Creamery in the midwest. It's at all the Whole Foods and health food stores here. Out west there's Straus dairy widely available. There are also a couple small farms at the bigger farmer's markets selling grassfed milk and cheese.Kelly A.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05664652203115109751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-75484943607388743672010-04-13T16:06:49.830-07:002010-04-13T16:06:49.830-07:00Hi Robert,
I just looked up the study. Guess wha...Hi Robert,<br /><br />I just looked up the study. Guess what their source of dairy was? <br /><br />"The dairy smoothies were milk based, with nonfat dry milk as the protein source, and contained 350 mg calcium per smoothie. The placebo smoothies were soy based and contained 50 mg calcium per smoothie."<br /><br />Ugh.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-11151865590907680462010-04-13T15:52:25.058-07:002010-04-13T15:52:25.058-07:00I have only seen the summary but this looks intere...I have only seen the summary but this looks interesting. As usual found whilst looking for something else (-:<br /><br /><br /><br />Effects of dairy compared with soy on oxidative and inflammatory stress in overweight and obese subjects<br /><br />http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/91/1/16<br /><br />The dairy-supplemented diet resulted in significant suppression of oxidative stress (plasma malondialdehyde, 22%; 8-isoprostane-F2{alpha}, 12%; P < 0.0005) and lower inflammatory markers (tumor necrosis factor-{alpha}, 15%, P < 0.002; interleukin-6, 13%, P < 0.01; monocyte chemoattractant protein-1, 10%, P < 0.0006) and increased adiponectin (20%, P < 0.002), whereas the soy exerted no significant effect. These effects were evident by day 7 of treatment and increased in magnitude at the end of the 28-d treatment periods. There were no significant differences in response to treatment between overweight and obese subjects for any variable studied.Robert Andrew Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181027811602620374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-10286379769089446142010-04-13T10:20:09.602-07:002010-04-13T10:20:09.602-07:00Where is everybody finding all this pasture-fed da...Where is everybody finding all this pasture-fed dairy?<br /><br />I live in rural Massachusetts. I buy local dairy, and I know the local cows eat grass, because I see them doing it, but only one dairy is 100% grass-fed, and you have to buy the milk at the farm, which is in a remote location, and the milk is only available April-Nov. Still, I do it. <br /><br />All the organic milk is from away, and ultra-pasteurized. <br /><br />As far as pastured goat's milk products? Around here, if a store sells goat's milk yogurt at all, they sell one brand, and it's neither labeled organic nor pastured. It's also wicked expensive.Mavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994797939492751433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-86254783557689640742010-04-12T15:14:08.958-07:002010-04-12T15:14:08.958-07:00And another cheery paper
Does industrial composti...And another cheery paper<br /><br />Does industrial composting when sludge is used to produce methane remove endocrine disrupters. ?<br /><br />Pregnant ewes exposed to multiple endocrine disrupting pollutants through sewage sludge-fertilized pasture show an anti-estrogenic effect in their trabecular bone.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20202673<br /><br />"It is concluded that ewes grazing pasture fertilized with sewage sludge exhibited an anti-estrogenic effect on their trabecular bone in the form of reduced mineral content and density, despite increased body weight. It is suggested that human exposure to low levels of multiple EDCs may have implications for bone structure and human health."<br /><br /><br />So we could always use it as animal food stuff<br /><br />Activated sewage sludge, a potential animal foodstuff I. Proximate and mineral content: Seasonal variation <br /><br />http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B75C8-48XK39W-6P&_user=10&_coverDate=08%2F31%2F1979&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1292422904&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e575bd23a2ebfc69f9db9f8345f3e826Robert Andrew Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181027811602620374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-82509029632094357032010-04-12T15:08:31.382-07:002010-04-12T15:08:31.382-07:00Philbert
I agree that we have to be pragmatic, an...Philbert<br /><br />I agree that we have to be pragmatic, and the lower effect of smoking in Japan where they were better nourished suggests we have a degree of redundancy.<br /><br />However I think there is a need to informed.<br /><br />I should have added above to put the pollution of milk into perspective that if we spread cadmium in sewage and fertiliser on the fields it will turn up in crops which is self evidently where the cows get it from.<br /><br />Unlike the cows the crops do not filter it out, which is borne out by this study:<br /><br />Exposure of cadmium from infant formulas and weaning foods.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10789373<br /><br />"Mean cadmium levels were found to range from 1.10 to 23.5 micrograms/kg fresh weight concentrated formulas. Levels were related to the composition of the diets. Formulas based on cow's milk had the lowest concentrations. Soy formulas contained approximately six times more cadmium than cow's milk formulas, and diets with a cereal content had 4-21 times higher mean levels."<br /><br />"Compared to breast-fed children, the exposure of dietary cadmium from weaning diets can be up to 12 times higher in children fed infant formula."<br /><br /><br />The implications for the food chain and crop cadmium content is thought provoking.<br /><br />Dietary intake, levels in food and estimated intake of lead, cadmium, and mercury.<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8504867<br /><br />"Highest levels occurred in offal (mean 320 micrograms/kg) and shellfish (200 micrograms/kg) but, because of amounts consumed, reduction of concentrations in cereals, roots and tubers would be most effective."<br /><br /><br /><br />To eat or not to eat is the question,whether tis better to suffer the slings and arrows of unthinking pollution, or get very thin (-:Robert Andrew Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05181027811602620374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-28752677920876754172010-04-12T14:34:54.359-07:002010-04-12T14:34:54.359-07:00Hi Sarah Nickolet,
Have you tried goat milk? Virt...Hi Sarah Nickolet,<br /><br />Have you tried goat milk? Virtually all commercially produced milk in the U.S. is A1 milk which, during digestion, releases casomorphins (BCM7), a protein fragment that has opioid (narcotic) properties and can cause allergic reactions and many other problems, particularly in those with poor gut flora. Goat milk is A2 milk and does not have such problems. Cow milk from Guernsey cows is also A2 milk and no problem.<br /><br />The problems caused by A1 milk can be resolved by breeding cattle to eliminate the responsible gene so that only A2 milk is produced. New Zealand, which dominates the world milk industry, seems to be on the road to breeding out the A1 gene.<br /><br />Pasteurization reportedly increase the casomorphins in milk, and many who have a problem with pasteurized milk can drink raw milk with no problem regardless of whether it is A1 or A2. <br /><br />Best get goat milk that is from pasture fed animals and not ultra-pasteurized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com