tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post3949649666190654664..comments2024-02-25T02:24:14.972-08:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Dairy Fat and DiabetesStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-10829638638046806722011-02-21T03:13:30.574-08:002011-02-21T03:13:30.574-08:00I think you neglected to reiterate in your post th...I think you neglected to reiterate in your post that being overweight is still the greatest hazard factor for diabetes (along with genetics).<br /><br />Just curious - are there any studies comparing homogenized milk with non-homogenized?Bastardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773584479244051660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-41967460848026098332011-01-23T06:44:37.239-08:002011-01-23T06:44:37.239-08:00my mother has metabolic syndrome, diverticulosis, ...my mother has metabolic syndrome, diverticulosis, bone cancer, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, fatty liver, high blood pressure. she is 75 and still hanging on with the cancer medicines tykerb and xeloda.<br /><br />she was a holocaust child. she experienced starvation and consequently her leg bones did not grow to proper length. her trunk length is out of proportion to her legs.<br /><br />her gall bladder was removed when she was in her 40s.<br /><br />she has always consumed full fat dairy (even now), sour cream, cream cheese. she eats a lot of processed food as well. she used to always drink tea with sugar.<br /><br />she has never smoked or taken a drop of alcohol.<br /><br />my father also has type 2 diabetes. he never smoked or drank alcohol. he grew up eating no processed food, but started to eat a little more after he got married. he was on the chubby side when he was young, but excelled as a safety in football. he used to chug cans of evaporated milk. growing up we always had full fat dairy- i don't know what kind of milk my father drinks now. he has always done heavy physical labor having grown up on a farm and having become a full time farmer in his 40s.<br /><br />both parents were diagnosed with diabetes in their 50s. but before that they both probably had metabolic syndrome as reflected in their big guts.v/vmaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06862544306715636777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-83783306088758053732011-01-19T16:56:19.541-08:002011-01-19T16:56:19.541-08:00As a diabetic, don't confuse something that ma...As a diabetic, don't confuse something that may PREVENT diabetes with having it be good for you WITH diabetes. I do use grass fed butters for most cooking and enjoy a bit of raw milk now and then. But overall Milk causes havoic with my numbers.PJNOIRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09046715378364958124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-74215114475136774692011-01-13T18:07:18.823-08:002011-01-13T18:07:18.823-08:00I know its late but the company with BPA in its bu...I know its late but the company with BPA in its butter was lando lakes.....ramon25https://www.blogger.com/profile/04526281612859983192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-7085020959446145142010-12-31T11:41:19.869-08:002010-12-31T11:41:19.869-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Might-o'chondri-ALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17572208303795253605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-68778487189051684502010-12-31T01:10:31.895-08:002010-12-31T01:10:31.895-08:00Stephan - fascinating! Do you have any thoughts on...Stephan - fascinating! Do you have any thoughts on how goat milk would differ from cow milk? I've heard that goat meat is the most commonly consumed meat in the world, so I'd guess that goat milk is the most commonly consumed non-breast milk in the world...PeterHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195660956505353597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-20618349065221407772010-12-30T14:35:01.336-08:002010-12-30T14:35:01.336-08:00@robrob
Can't connect to the articles you rec...@robrob<br /><br />Can't connect to the articles you recommend by stephanie seneff. I get:<br /><br />"The server at people.csail.mit.edu is taking too long to respond."Willowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05678669831391750854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-34422010760839820992010-12-29T16:25:23.761-08:002010-12-29T16:25:23.761-08:00I love butter I add it to brown rice to lower its ...I love butter I add it to brown rice to lower its gi. I use alot of cocounut oil, I use extra virgin, I eat organic bacon several times a week (didn't used to eat like this most of my life by the way)I love whole milk now I used to wonder why i craved it even tho I didn't drink it due to high sat fats for years. I would only use skim which I hated so didn't last long then 2 percent then none at all because of all the bad press about dairy.<br /><br />I did the low fat high carb diets I did low cal diets low carb like atkins I did so many I lost count. never got lean and stayed there. my triglycerides are always high my cholesterol, my bp is a real mess and has been for over 30 years. I worked at keeping my sat fat low. didn't help my parmeters at all. I have done the supplementation, exercise programs nothing helped my hypoglycemia events in the middle of the night the nervousness. the cravings for constant eating especially so called junk carbs like cheetos.<br /><br />but by mixing up my diet with only whole carbs and whole dairy and lower gi foods like bacon and cheese and meats etc, I have seen a reduction in my nightime hypo events, too early to tell but so far so good.<br /><br />a good article to read is called the obesity epidemic, is the metabolic syndrome a nutritional deficiency. she has other articles there about fructose and glucose. or you could google stephanie seneff. get to her home page.<br /><br />I enjoy her articles immensly. I encourage anyone who is struggling with metabolic syndrome and not knowing what is the best diet to view these. they have helped me alot.robrobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08543110396112149963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-27783421169579954772010-12-27T10:35:39.814-08:002010-12-27T10:35:39.814-08:00Hi Nutripolice,
I think you're right to be sk...Hi Nutripolice,<br /><br />I think you're right to be skeptical. First of all, the inverse association between trans-palmitoleate and diabetes may not even reflect cause-and-effect in the first place. But assuming for a moment that it does, I find it highly unlikely that trans-palmitoleate is "the active ingredient" rather than simply a marker of dairy fat intake (and also in part a marker of metabolic health that's mostly independent of diet).<br /><br />My prediction is that if they do a controlled trial with trans-palmitoleate pills, they will find no significant metabolic effects.<br /><br />Hi willw2,<br /><br />That information is not publicly available to my knowledge. I suspect it would not be in the manufacturers' best interest to release it. Otherwise they already would have.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-90995362104956537122010-12-26T23:11:17.956-08:002010-12-26T23:11:17.956-08:00I keep trying to find the MCG levels for K2 in com...I keep trying to find the MCG levels for K2 in commercial butter oil but no one seems to publish that. Your blog has so many postings about k2 that I've been reading and so thoroughly appreciate.<br /><br />Anyway, let me know if you know of a butter oil that publishes that type of data.<br /><br />-WillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-64570204314880581242010-12-26T19:33:58.362-08:002010-12-26T19:33:58.362-08:00Stephan,
Nutritional epidemiology at its best?
Mea...Stephan,<br />Nutritional epidemiology at its best?<br />Mean plasma trans-palmitoleate was 0.18% of total fatty acids, with about 95% of values between 0.08 and 0.28%. Trans-palmitoleate must therefore be an extremely potent fatty acid, to exert such powerful effects at such tiny amounts, right? Yet there is no actual mechanism to support this. <br />How many associations do you think were tested? (-without correcting for multiple comparisons). Some consider this type of research 'fishing expedition', although it is clearly not presented as such in the paper. <br />Stephan, <br />What odds do you give of this being a causal association?Nutripolicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208077771864750103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-20428208893908881902010-12-25T12:40:04.539-08:002010-12-25T12:40:04.539-08:00PJNOIR,
That's weird because OV sells raw mil...PJNOIR,<br /><br />That's weird because OV sells raw milk cheese. I don't know much about their corporate politics. Maybe soon enough I will be able to drop $10 a tub for the raw stuff from Organic Pastures. I buy their raw milk and it's fantastic. Anyway thanks for th info.<br /><br />-Jack KJackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03925820413280991430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-21172438856564346922010-12-25T10:25:18.804-08:002010-12-25T10:25:18.804-08:00David,
What's causing all this diabetes? Fro...David,<br /><br />What's causing all this diabetes? From my perspective, as someone who's always done almost everything "right" health-wise (though what seems right changes, frustratingly), and who has diabetes, I'd have to say genes have a lot to do with it. It's kind of like gluten sensitivity. All people will be affected by gluten to some degree, but only those with the right genes will get celiac disease or other serious gluten-related disorders. But there are lots of people with those genes, not a few, as with diabetes.<br /><br />Diabetes is more complicated than gluten sensitivity, though, because it can arise from a variety of flaws in the metabolic (and immune, in Type I) system, which is why it can't be construed as one disease, or even two or three. <br /><br />I think one modern culprit tripping the switches for those with vulnerable genes is inflammation - caused by an inflammatory diet, disruptions to gut flora, an overly clean environment, various industrial chemicals and pharmaceuticals, and a lot of other features of our modern age.<br /><br />All of these factors are also at play in the rise in obesity and insulin resistance. With weight gain and insulin resistance, some people's glucose-sensing/insulin-making capacities are more easily overwhelmed than other people's, leading to Type II diabetes and other forms. Other people can gain substantial weight and develop metabolic syndrome and never get diabetes. They aren't particularly healthy, but they don't have diabetes. On the other hand, I have a BMI of 22 and sort of the opposite of metabolic syndrome and insulin resistance, and I have diabetes (but not Type I).Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14504810823521044641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-89984774401330533602010-12-23T18:22:21.034-08:002010-12-23T18:22:21.034-08:00AS a BBW myself I do think big is beautiful. I am ...AS a BBW myself I do think big is beautiful. I am very proud of my size. I also have met many plus size friends on a BBW dating club [seekingbbw dot com]. The blog was updated very often. Lots of guys joined my friend circle. We are very popular here because we know size is only a number.sandrabbwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11019634231022010991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-49552572370830803432010-12-23T13:54:09.769-08:002010-12-23T13:54:09.769-08:00Jack, the problem I have with any Organic Valley p...Jack, the problem I have with any Organic Valley product is that they are strong arming their farmers not to sell Raw Milk and have acted quite like mobsters. I am so happy that I can legally buy raw milk though I can't buy raw cream or butter. I told OV to take a hike. Naturally by Nature has great products and Kerry Gold butter is tops.PJNOIRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09046715378364958124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-80524317074013274942010-12-23T13:48:10.226-08:002010-12-23T13:48:10.226-08:00Fear the Bread NOT the ButterFear the Bread NOT the ButterPJNOIRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09046715378364958124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-19802502461772291302010-12-22T20:42:38.707-08:002010-12-22T20:42:38.707-08:00Looks like the mainstream media picked up on this:...Looks like the mainstream media picked up on this:<br />http://www.latimes.com/health/boostershots/la-heb-dairy-diabetes-122010,0,6787178.storycpsdcarrollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14928861274973252003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-40296562189737455042010-12-22T19:11:54.867-08:002010-12-22T19:11:54.867-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Might-o'chondri-ALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17572208303795253605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-73097246341383363882010-12-22T17:35:45.644-08:002010-12-22T17:35:45.644-08:00For this post alone you have my undying love.
Not...For this post alone you have my undying love.<br />Not enough health writers talk about us lonely, fat deprived post meno ladies.<br />With love and butter,<br />DebDebbie Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04596555525095399660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-8006709610302890892010-12-22T13:55:22.981-08:002010-12-22T13:55:22.981-08:00What about whey protein powder? I make a grass fed...What about whey protein powder? I make a grass fed raw milk whey protein concentrate drink for a post workout gulp. I have read many very positive things about this, never that it spikes insulin.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03925820413280991430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-28169769743685695552010-12-22T09:22:18.529-08:002010-12-22T09:22:18.529-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Might-o'chondri-ALhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17572208303795253605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-22229222160087185192010-12-22T09:19:39.192-08:002010-12-22T09:19:39.192-08:00I frequently sit down with a half gallon of whole ...I frequently sit down with a half gallon of whole raw milk and potatoes swimming in butter. I love it so!! Always refreshing to be reminded I'm not killing myself, that meal being anathema to both the establishment and so many in the paleo community.zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05334525584242029389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-59502985022556081762010-12-22T06:59:47.794-08:002010-12-22T06:59:47.794-08:00Peter,
Chris Masterjohn recently posted on that, ...Peter,<br /><br />Chris Masterjohn recently posted on that, "Why Is My Cholesterol So High On This Diet? You May Be Curing Yourself of Fatty Liver."Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161850700121191487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-91623568718480934062010-12-22T03:55:30.927-08:002010-12-22T03:55:30.927-08:00What happened to LDL in the study? I'm curious...What happened to LDL in the study? I'm curious because since I've been eating more fat and less carbs my LDL has shot up while the other markers are improved (HDL, TG, FG, HgA1c, CRP). My docter thinks I should take a statin, but I'm not sure. There must be some dietary experiment that would allow me keep the gains without the LDL skyrocketing.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02266618729820780848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-28022781261776423522010-12-21T23:13:06.950-08:002010-12-21T23:13:06.950-08:00so potato starch and dairy fat help prevent diabet...so potato starch and dairy fat help prevent diabetes, so what causes it? and please don't say vegetable oils unless you have good cites to back it up...Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919754493929551565noreply@blogger.com