tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post4463131896152494807..comments2024-02-25T02:24:14.972-08:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Potatoes and Human Health, Part IStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-59543913023361080482015-03-02T13:55:47.944-08:002015-03-02T13:55:47.944-08:00Stefan, Do you have any documentation that potatoe...Stefan, Do you have any documentation that potatoes contain complete protein? I can't find anything about this.Carynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07478053711568209355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-77223759086115447622014-10-17T14:38:59.713-07:002014-10-17T14:38:59.713-07:00Actually many people at first experience gas when ...Actually many people at first experience gas when increasing or adding resistant starch to their diet. Usually after awhile when your gut bugs shift it stops or decreases to tolerable levels. Potatoes are if not the highest resistant starch food way up on the list like number two if not number one. They are really good for increasing butyrate in the gut and improving the microbiome. It would be sad to conclude that potatoes are bad for just because of gas. Work on your gut and it will almost assuredly stop or diminish greatly. Other non starch polysaccharides can help a lot like fos from jicama, asparagus, onion, chicory, dandelion and inulin. These and resistant starch act as prebiotics to feed and increase the beneficial a microbes on your gut. Probiotics such as natren bifidus jarrow bifidodophilus prescript assist hsos and aor3 can add good bugs as well as cultured foods. Or even a fecal transplant if necessary. The stories of people being cured of all manner of illnesses via fecal transplant are accumulating at thepowerofpoop.com. Whether you go that far obviously depends on how desperate you are!lisaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14360700674622979187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-64409293775707293842013-02-28T08:52:31.170-08:002013-02-28T08:52:31.170-08:00Congratulations Admin! Thank you so much for takin...Congratulations Admin! Thank you so much for taking the time to share this exciting information.<br /><a href="http://www.lotusacupunctureclinic.com" rel="nofollow">Read More</a>Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11164213334075521049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-45138207790306245242010-09-25T08:46:20.302-07:002010-09-25T08:46:20.302-07:00@JBG: you can email me at zetjintsu@y*hoo and I&#...@JBG: you can email me at zetjintsu@y*hoo and I'll explain more so we don't clutter up Stephan's thread. <br /><br />Stephan, any chance we could see a table listing glycoalkaloid content of different varieties? I got white potatoes last time shopping, and have been annoyed that the spine/gut muscle test is hardly letting me eat any. Coming back to this thread though it sounds like they're the worst variety for toxins.<br /><br />So what's the lowest glycoalkaloid potato? I'm wondering what's up with those weird purple potatoes I get at the farmer's market as well.ZJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01841829552748945987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-52984035197387562562010-09-24T20:05:43.615-07:002010-09-24T20:05:43.615-07:00pjnoir
What's the name of the book? Sounds ...pjnoir<br /><br />What's the name of the book? Sounds fascinating. I love reading what people *used* to eat.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17033443643442246531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-43184069105230077492010-09-24T18:14:16.142-07:002010-09-24T18:14:16.142-07:00Caleb Cooper and/or Bravo: What is this spine/gut...Caleb Cooper and/or Bravo: What is this spine/gut test you are talking about?JBGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04335845681080553536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-40799135949297285552010-09-24T16:53:52.872-07:002010-09-24T16:53:52.872-07:00I agree with Michael Barker. Agriculture has morph...I agree with Michael Barker. Agriculture has morphed so quickly that nothing is wehat it was even 50 yrs ago. <br /><br />I'm reading a wonderful book on Irish cooking- a cookbook with a LOT of history. What the Irish was left to eat is truely amazing, nothing short of rock soup with potatoes and cow blood ( instead of stealing a cow, they let out blood to use as protein) sorry for the off topic.michael plunketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028277816327625622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-61867195003497022822010-09-24T11:47:23.115-07:002010-09-24T11:47:23.115-07:00@ Martin Levac:
"But maybe you believe fiber ...@ Martin Levac:<br />"But maybe you believe fiber is food. Well then there's the rub. If we can't digest it, is it food?"<br /><br />Perhaps in support of your argument is the actual consideration of fiber as food. First for the population of microbes in your guts that in turn creating the fatty acid absorbed by the human body. <br />In some cultures this energy source of fatty acid can approach 15% of total - 100% for the ruminants and the mountain gorilla - our closed cousin. <br />IMO, any hypothesis on human health, diet and/or disease is seriously deficient without taking into account the symbiotic relationship between the body and its microbes.<br />I suspect it (fiber) can also resolve the paradox of vegetarianism as a health booster. <br />JohnJohnNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639308289155393659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-73532765439564769352010-09-24T08:45:06.245-07:002010-09-24T08:45:06.245-07:00Hi.. Nice health blog you have there.
For the pot...Hi.. Nice health blog you have there. <br />For the potato , do you ever heard the Electric Ultrasound Potato- A research about making Healthy potatoes by using electrical treatment . Research says it produce more antioxidant for our body, and thats makes this potatoes healthy :) Come and visit my Health Blogs www.healthygate.com to read it if ure interested..<br />Keep a Good Post , have nice day .. and allows me to bookmark ur site . I'll be back .. :DErick Sebastian Chandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01740432769623464561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-46411225447213021412010-09-24T02:22:08.689-07:002010-09-24T02:22:08.689-07:00'll be very interested to see the second part ...'ll be very interested to see the second part such as potatoes are one of my top choices as a source of carbohydrates, and have one almost every day.<br /><br />I do muscle testing with the spine guts before buying or eating potatoes though, often assume that when the spine moves bowel away is that my body detoxing non glycoalkaloid.<br /><br />I would not be surprised if people were more often glycoalkaloid potato accumulate enough to realize it as adverse health effects.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595406725801090209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-82216006014371640782010-09-23T10:59:57.442-07:002010-09-23T10:59:57.442-07:00Hi Jack C and Francesco,
If potatoes give you GI ...Hi Jack C and Francesco,<br /><br />If potatoes give you GI trouble, then by all means avoid them. There's nothing in potatoes that should give you gas, so it may indicate a sensitivity.<br /><br />Exercise certainly plays a role in the health of most non-industrial cultures, whether the diet is high in carbs or fat. But keep in mind that many non-industrial agriculturalists don't get much more exercise than walking around, food prep and other domestic tasks. They aren't running wind sprints every morning.<br /><br />Hi Collden,<br /><br />I think fruit juice is best avoided except occasinally. Sweet beverages aren't a good idea in general. I'm OK with fruit, within reason. I personally eat 1-2 pieces per day.<br /><br />Hi Matt,<br /><br />I'm not surprised. Cultures transitioning to an industrial lifestyle often develop the diseases of civilization to an exaggerated degree.<br /><br />Hi Rick,<br /><br />White potatoes and sweet potatoes are botanically unrelated. Sweet potatoes don't contain solanine or chaconine, the two main toxic glycoalkaloids found in white potatoes.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-14924925166709219162010-09-23T09:57:29.038-07:002010-09-23T09:57:29.038-07:00I think it is not solely the potato or another nig...I think it is not solely the potato or another nightshade that causes havoc. It's today's combination of grains, legumes, dairy and nightshades that together cause the leaky gut and the complications that arise from that. We wrote posts on the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-89779571084290606492010-09-23T02:37:39.952-07:002010-09-23T02:37:39.952-07:00I would like to know if sweet potatoes and yams co...I would like to know if sweet potatoes and yams contain more glykoalkaloids than white potato. This video I saw by Dr.G... saying white potatoes are to be avoided for glykoalkaloids but says nothing about sweet potatoes and glycoalkaloids (saying they are healthy based on some healthy food guide):<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP9zeW1l7cA&p=53AA35449C7DD652&index=39&hd=1#t=1m" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP9zeW1l7cA&p=53AA35449C7DD652&index=39&hd=1#t=1m</a> Healthy alternative?rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09851778022532692163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-43564563010626190442010-09-23T02:36:38.403-07:002010-09-23T02:36:38.403-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09851778022532692163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-74267785876853973922010-09-23T02:35:32.165-07:002010-09-23T02:35:32.165-07:00@Jack C
Of course Jack. Me too.
I cannot eat even...@Jack C<br />Of course Jack. Me too. <br />I cannot eat even small quantities of potatoes without having so much gas and flatulence after some hours.<br /><br /><br />Re other cultures eating starches (70% of their total daily calories), could a different level of physical activity be involved, like Dr. Art Ayers says here? http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/02/medical-advice-is-just-wrong.html (read "Starch is the problem"...). <br /><br />I'm not so sure putting a sedentary western man on a 70% carbs/starch diet (even from potatoes) would be a great thing, but that's just my opinion.<br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-26769109665540866292010-09-22T21:39:54.330-07:002010-09-22T21:39:54.330-07:00I appreciate this post! I've recently added po...I appreciate this post! I've recently added potatoes more into our diets and have liked the fact that I don't have to spend days soaking them, and that they are delicious! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the series.<br /><br />Kimi @ thenourishinggourmet.comKimi Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04262294467672447988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-29663898408622547622010-09-22T20:16:07.588-07:002010-09-22T20:16:07.588-07:00Thanks for sharing this post. Today one cannot eve...Thanks for sharing this post. Today one cannot even imagine vegetables without potatoes. This shapeless and ugly looking tuber, bearing the scientific name Solanum Tuberosum, has cast a spell on us. Potato lovers (including me), and those who do not like them, will be equally delighted to know that potatoes have more in store for them than just carbohydrates and calories.daphne syhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05101591250732622522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-41765903785380547042010-09-22T16:16:17.737-07:002010-09-22T16:16:17.737-07:00This is a great post about potatoes. They are so ...This is a great post about potatoes. They are so healthy for you (as long as you don't load on the sour creme)! We grow our own here, and they are great with our home-grown organic eggs and spinach!<br /><br />- David<br /><br /><a href="http://www.aloe-vera.org" rel="nofollow">Aloe Vera 101</a><br /><a href="http://www.holistic.us.com" rel="nofollow">Holistic Health Info.</a>"Guppy" Honakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00418432570902397757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-82132565601277638922010-09-22T10:09:31.146-07:002010-09-22T10:09:31.146-07:00@collden
I know you asked Stephan. But my 2 cents...@collden<br /><br />I know you asked Stephan. But my 2 cents anyway.<br /><br />I think the problem boils down to how fast the fructose in the fruits hit the liver or other tissues in the body. Fructose is toxic except in very small quantities.<br /><br />When we eat fruits or fructose with other fibrous or fatty foods, the stomach does the portion control. The fructose exits the stomach slowly. So that the rest of the body and the liver gets it slowly, and they can then process it.<br /><br />When we drink fruit juice or other liquid sources of fructose, then the stomach does not control its passage. It has never been used to any other liquid other than water. It does not try to release it slowly. The effect is that the liver and the rest of the body gets the fructose at a very high rate. Possibly more than it can handle.<br /><br />In my opinion fructose in liquids should be avoided. I am not sure this does not apply to glucose in liquid as well.Anand Srivastavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15616369007370348265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-86431618586467329332010-09-22T03:05:54.922-07:002010-09-22T03:05:54.922-07:00Love your blog Stephan. I think anthropological he...Love your blog Stephan. I think anthropological health studies are fascinating, but I'm only learning enough to be dangerous. <br /><br />I was poking around for information on the Papuan highland culture, and came across data from the International Association for the Study of Obesity. This data indicates that Papua New Guinea has the highest obesity rate per capita in the world. How ironic that the highland Papuans have "virtually no obesity". That's messed up!Matt Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13594219396786192614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-43884113399134184152010-09-22T01:22:50.141-07:002010-09-22T01:22:50.141-07:00Stephan, what is your stance on fruits and fresh 1...Stephan, what is your stance on fruits and fresh 100% fruit juices? It would seem to me that for instance orange juice is comparable to potatoes both in nutrient density and nutrient absorption.Colldénhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10664747492507357479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-73924807751266775022010-09-21T22:32:23.813-07:002010-09-21T22:32:23.813-07:00Hi Martin,
The Kitavan diet is very high in starc...Hi Martin,<br /><br />The Kitavan diet is very high in starch, and only moderately high in fiber. It is not a low-carb diet by any stretch of the imagination. Kitavans eat taro, breadfruit, yams, and sweet potatoes. Those have all been well characterized and they are starchy tubers roughly comparable to potatoes. They have a high glycemic index and glycemic load, like all starchy tubers. The bottom line is that the Kitavans, along with many other cultures, eat lots of unrefined digestible carbohydrate and are healthy.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-18246272915333660342010-09-21T19:52:31.248-07:002010-09-21T19:52:31.248-07:00My wife and I both love potatoes, usually mashed w...My wife and I both love potatoes, usually mashed with lots of butter, but a lot of flatulence always follows.<br /><br />Are there other potato lovers who have experienced this problem?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-91193051720355227862010-09-21T19:23:10.683-07:002010-09-21T19:23:10.683-07:00The Kitavans, like all the other isolated populati...The Kitavans, like all the other isolated populations that were observed by Price, don't eat any refined food. But they are not immune. Once they travel out of their island and adopt a modern diet, they promptly develop the same diseases of civilization as the rest of us. Is it because they now eat their food refined? No, there's something else going on.<br /><br />Like Stefansson observed, we don't need to adopt a completely different diet to suffer the same disease, we merely have to add refined sugar and flour to our existing diet as he described of those plains Indians who did just that.<br /><br />So why do the Kitavans continue to enjoy good health in spite of an alleged high carb diet? Because it is not in fact a high carb diet. It's a low carb diet in disguise. How's that? We can't digest fiber. The Kitavans are no different in this respect. But once you transform the fiberous carbs into something where the digestible carbs become suddenly available, the Kitavans lose their alleged high carb immunity.<br /><br />But maybe you believe fiber is food. Well then there's the rub. If we can't digest it, is it food?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-32252915489514267592010-09-21T18:37:19.549-07:002010-09-21T18:37:19.549-07:00Hi Martin,
What substance are you referring to, c...Hi Martin,<br /><br />What substance are you referring to, carbohydrate? There are countless cultures around the globe that eat 70 plus percent carbohydrate and don't suffer from metabolic disorders, so I find that hypothesis hard to swallow. For example, the Papuan highland culture I blogged about recently that eats 90% sweet potatoes, and has virtually no obesity, diabetes or CHD. And the Kitavans, which you may recall me writing a series about last year.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.com