tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post7895801592930172984..comments2024-02-25T02:24:14.972-08:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Butter vs. MargarineStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-83495016995978296892010-11-17T11:26:58.155-08:002010-11-17T11:26:58.155-08:00My biggest rebellious act when I left home for col...My biggest rebellious act when I left home for college was switching to butter, so I was very pleased when the evidence started coming out against margarine.<br />I had a thought regarding the apparent decrease in CHD with increasing butter consumption. If you are eating that much butter, then it doesn't have much time to sit around and get rancid. My observation is that people ignore their nose and eat their rancid 3 month old butter. Perhaps more butter isn't better or worse, it is really just that the "more butter" is often the same as "fresher butter."David Pierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16326578313240027846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-62174975566013286662010-04-13T09:46:29.267-07:002010-04-13T09:46:29.267-07:00Hi Huey,
Yes, it's possible that people with ...Hi Huey,<br /><br />Yes, it's possible that people with CHD gravitated toward margarine and that contributed to the effect. However, there are two things that would argue against that as the sole explanation. 1) the negative association with margarine only became apparent in the second half of the study. If it were due to selection bias, you'd expect it to be just as strong of an effect in the first half. 2) trans fats have been consistently associated with CHD, regardless of the source. <br /><br />Still, it was an observational study, so we can't come to any definitive conclusions. I'm mostly just trying to point out that the advice to substitute margarine for butter is totally groundless.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-64374530074511220722010-04-12T18:02:39.854-07:002010-04-12T18:02:39.854-07:00I don't have access to the paper, but reading ...I don't have access to the paper, but reading your post and the abstract make it sound like the researches didn't adjust for cholesterol levels or pre-existing heart conditions. That is to say, could it be possible the people with bad hearts decided to eat margarine?hueyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14282005569500658284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-12425318552580138752010-02-01T16:29:00.338-08:002010-02-01T16:29:00.338-08:00I love this website!
Sir, can you help me to find ...I love this website!<br />Sir, can you help me to find related literature or study about alternative source for making butter? What do i mean is that I want to find out those study about new alternative source for peanut butter. Sir please help me. I'am doing my investigatory project as our requirment in High School and my title is jackfruit as alternative source of butter but i haven't related literature to support my study.<br />I hope that you will help me. you can email at richellesantos92@yahoo.com. thanks and more power.richellesantoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04378391371431051396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-83223629278044145882009-12-14T08:45:22.541-08:002009-12-14T08:45:22.541-08:00Stefan, i'm currently looking at the table pap...Stefan, i'm currently looking at the table paper, and i'm just curious. It's writtent like this : Intake (1-4) Margarine 77 (331) Butter 82 (318)<br /><br />What does the 77 and 82 means? <br /><br />I just don't get it! hehe<br /><br />Thanks!Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04026811648499823323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-35971959743423172672009-11-06T12:28:03.319-08:002009-11-06T12:28:03.319-08:00Hi novaroad,
The fact is, no one knows. No one h...Hi novaroad,<br /><br />The fact is, no one knows. No one has ever done a controlled trial with any real measure of health as an endpoint using that margarine, and no one ever will.<br /><br />It's anyone's guess whether it will be fine or kill you in 20 years. Butter has a proven track record.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-78819520710193856012009-11-06T12:27:34.376-08:002009-11-06T12:27:34.376-08:00"I'm actually kind of hoping you'll s..."I'm actually kind of hoping you'll say, "Yes, you are a fool; it's marketing" so that I can throw out my fake butter and go all real butter, all the time."<br /><br />Dude, I'm not even looking at that stuff. Why *don't* you throw out the fake butter? Real butter is so much cheaper, healthier, and tastier anyway! :)Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10223664599729768316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-75273887123054317352009-11-05T15:19:06.547-08:002009-11-05T15:19:06.547-08:00I have what might be a dumb question. Am I a fool ...I have what might be a dumb question. Am I a fool for thinking that the expensive, fancy butter alternatives are somehow not equivalent to the bad, trans-fat margarine I grew up with?<br /><br />In particular, I mean this stuff:<br />http://www.earthbalancenatural.com/eb_pdfs/products/original-nutrition-info.pdf<br /><br />See, it's expeller-pressed!<br /><br />(I'm actually kind of hoping you'll say, "Yes, you are a fool; it's marketing" so that I can throw out my fake butter and go all real butter, all the time.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-32538005416588233682009-11-03T14:08:27.986-08:002009-11-03T14:08:27.986-08:00Hi rwac,
I hadn't seen it, thanks. It's ...Hi rwac,<br /><br />I hadn't seen it, thanks. It's frightening to say the least! I'll have to read that book someday.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-3028269038873285152009-11-01T22:39:23.457-08:002009-11-01T22:39:23.457-08:00just in case readers don't click the link nige...just in case readers don't click the link nigel gave, the last sentence of the abstract reads "Overall, except in persons with compromised organ function, e. g., vascular, hepatic, or renal diseases, there is little evidence that food ALEs will have any significant pathological effects."<br /><br />cooking with butter close to or greater than 350F might not be a wise health moveLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10017188059033234984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-86390272160059002562009-11-01T01:10:34.777-08:002009-11-01T01:10:34.777-08:00RE Advanced Lipoxidation Endproducts (ALEs):
Have ...RE Advanced Lipoxidation Endproducts (ALEs):<br />Have you seen <a href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/116318031/abstract" rel="nofollow">Dietary ALEs are a risk to human health - NOT!</a> which I found via <a href="http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2009/09/age-content-of-foods.html" rel="nofollow">AGE Content of Foods</a>?Nigel Kinbrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03368973941328529619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-59176510927851102602009-10-30T17:19:56.074-07:002009-10-30T17:19:56.074-07:00One caveat with butter is high exogenous ALEs. I d...One caveat with butter is high exogenous ALEs. I don't obsess them. But butter is exceptionally high. Can't be a good thing.<br /><br />I love butter but it's hard to not consider it a lesser fat source.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-73493886536468662302009-10-27T10:43:16.130-07:002009-10-27T10:43:16.130-07:00@ mrwac
Hydrogenated fat adversely affected litte...@ mrwac <br /><i><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2758008" rel="nofollow">Hydrogenated fat </a>adversely affected litter size, sperm morphology and regularity of oestrous cycle, and prolonged the period of gestation in experimental animals. Differences observed between the generations were not significant. 4. Hydrogenated fat decreased the level of serum testosterone in males</i><br /><br />As the Unilever dietitian had to concede in the BBC Food programme above, there is still about as much Trans fat in Flora Omega 3 Plus as the much advertised omega 3.<br /><br />I expect Robert will know better if high Omega 6 intake decreases testosterone. It certainly is associated with <a href="http://omega-6-omega-3-balance.omegaoptimize.com/2009/08/25/high-omega6-associated-with-infertility-and-low-sperm-count.aspx" rel="nofollow">Infertility and Low Sperm Count</a><br /><br />There is this report online <a href="http://hearthawk.blogspot.com/2008/03/vitamin-d-and-testosterone-another.html" rel="nofollow">suggesting raising vitamin d intake also raised testosterone.</a> over the last 20yrs there has been a gradual lowering of average vitamin d status.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-16218176974478473152009-10-27T08:31:43.738-07:002009-10-27T08:31:43.738-07:00Hi Stefan,
This is OT, but have you seen this stu...Hi Stefan,<br /><br />This is OT, but have you seen this study ?<br /><br />http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/reproduction/2006/2006-1210travisonetal.html<br /><br />Travison, TG, AB Araujo, AB O’Donnell, V Kupelian, JB McKinlay. 2007. A population-level decline in serum testosterone levels in American men. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism 92:196–202.Kiranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14254493674826112825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-61268896701149233062009-10-27T03:31:41.742-07:002009-10-27T03:31:41.742-07:00Eggs are a good source of Protein.
Protein, amino...Eggs are a good source of Protein. <br /><a href="http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/90/3/838S" rel="nofollow">Protein, amino acids, vagus nerve signaling, and the brain</a> tells us<i> Protein and amino acids are more potent than carbohydrate and fat in inducing short-term satiety. <br />The amount of protein or amino acids in a meal or diet regulates the signals to the brain. Increasing dietary protein usually reduces energy intake.</i><br /><br />Remember also the mechanism by which the signals to and from the brain are turned into actions is regulated by the Vitamin D status of the brain. There are some 180 different signalling proteins in the brain that respond to D3.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-86255783581890566842009-10-26T21:56:27.430-07:002009-10-26T21:56:27.430-07:00Hello all: Thanks a lot for your accurate answer. ...Hello all: Thanks a lot for your accurate answer. What i will do is that i will make egg omelets made with 4 to 5 egg whites and 3 yolks. And i have been eating yolks lately and i feel a lot more full as compared to when i made egg-omelets of pure egg-whites. <br /><br />And i think that losing weight on low carb diet is a lot easier than on conventional regular diets. Because i don't know why it is that proteins and fats are a lot better to control hunger than carbohydrates. Today i ate a lot of chicken and i felt so full. Another good thing is that protein and fats taste better than carboyydrates :-)<br /><br />.<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-90330377697381464202009-10-26T11:28:05.502-07:002009-10-26T11:28:05.502-07:00Marxist-Socialist:
It'd probably be helpful i...Marxist-Socialist:<br /><br />It'd probably be helpful if you stop thinking in terms of a diet that's high protein, low fat and low carb. There are certain biological limits on how much of your daily calorie needs can be met by protein; let's say around 35% practically. So even if you eat only protein for 35% of your protein needs, you're really getting 65% of your daily calories from (your own body's) fat (or causing your metabolism to drop).<br /><br />Yolk is certainly fine while low carbing: you could have 10 whole eggs and for les than 4g of carb (and 700 calories). Incidentally that would be around 35% calories from protein and the rest from fat, so arguably ideal if you want to go as high protein as you can.<br /><br />Egg white alone is virtually pure protein, few nutrients. Arguably eating only protein and no other calories would be great for weight loss, but it would be wildly unhealthy. Ideally you'd eat enough protein AND get enough nutrients, either by eating nutritious protein sources (meats, liver, kidneys) or eating fats containing nutrients in addition to your bare protein. <br /><br />The low carbing is a good idea, but how much fat you want to consume depends on what your calorie needs/body fat stores are. Trying to eat "low fat" because it contains lots of calories per gram is pointless. If it's calories you want to avoid then it doesn't matter how many calories each gram of food contains: a tonne of feathers weighs as much as a tonne of concrete, after all. 10 calories of fat will fill you up far more than 10 cal of carb however, and won't mess up your insulin.David Mosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08508780038542342811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-21709884865575816512009-10-26T10:35:32.400-07:002009-10-26T10:35:32.400-07:00Useful 30 minute radio program Food Program Radio ...Useful 30 minute radio program <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00ncwwm" rel="nofollow">Food Program Radio 4 Listen Again</a> Michael Crawford Tony Hulbert Alex Richardson Jack Winkler and a spokesperson for Unilever.TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-44852716832782871382009-10-26T10:28:53.609-07:002009-10-26T10:28:53.609-07:00Well marxist-socialist, you shouldn't be on a ...Well marxist-socialist, you shouldn't be on a low-fat diet in the first place. Certainly eat the yolk too, it contains almost half of the protein in the egg, a lot of choline, a shitload vitamins and a bunch of minerals, why would you want to waste that? <br />Yes eggs are highly recommended in a low-carb diet (unless you have an egg allergy that is).<br /><br />Btw, i made ghee yesterday, some indian friend recommended it to me, and it really tastes a lot better than butter. Certainly worth trying out.<br /><br />Greets,<br />DavidDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01847816023018292177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-90908467667927658862009-10-25T20:14:28.056-07:002009-10-25T20:14:28.056-07:00HELLO ALL:
i have a question. I am on a high-pro...HELLO ALL: <br /><br />i have a question. I am on a high-protein, low-carb, low-fat diet. But i would like to know if whole-eggs are fattening? Because right now i only eat egg-whites. I even have an egg-divider that i bought at the website of Sears http://www.sears.com For dividing the egg-whites from the yolks. I've been eating this way because i've read that when people are following a low-carb diet they have also to take into consideration the amount of calories. And since fats have the double amount of calories, i thought that it is rational to eat low in fat. <br /><br />So my basic question again is, if whole-eggs are allowed in low carb diets of 30 grams to 70 grams of carbohydrates a day.<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-28942627430767158212009-10-25T13:10:46.709-07:002009-10-25T13:10:46.709-07:00Food Choices and Coronary Heart Disease: A Populat...<a href="http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/6/10/2626/pdf" rel="nofollow">Food Choices and Coronary Heart Disease: A Population Based Cohort Study of Rural Swedish Men with 12 Years of Follow-up </a><br /><br />Full text PDF<br /><br /> Daily intake of fruit and vegetables was associated with a lower risk of coronary heart disease when combined with a <b> high dairy fat consumption </b> (odds ratio 0.39, 95% CI 0.21-0.73), but <b>not when combined with a low dairy fat consumption</b> (odds ratio 1.70, 95% CI 0.97-2.98).TedHutchinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140097526458431747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-66402794058705919312009-10-23T19:56:00.734-07:002009-10-23T19:56:00.734-07:00Oh also, the idea that lowering TC by eating PUFA ...Oh also, the idea that lowering TC by eating PUFA oils might lower heart attack risk has already been directly tested in controlled diet trials... it doesn't work.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-67718614432268243222009-10-23T19:53:10.310-07:002009-10-23T19:53:10.310-07:00Hi Helen,
I don't know where Castelli got tha...Hi Helen,<br /><br />I don't know where Castelli got that idea, I think from one of the Framingham data sets. But all the data I've seen disagree with it. In MRFIT, people under 150 had heart attacks, in some Japanese data I was just perusing, people under 150 had heart attacks...<br /><br />There's no doubt that the heart attack rate is much lower at 150 than it is at 250, in American populations. But in Japan it doesn't seem to matter whether you're at 150 or 250 mg/dL TC, and in fact your overall risk of dying is lower at 250. So it's not a universal phenomenon.<br /><br />In any case, the idea that no one has heart attacks under 150 mg/dL TC is a myth at this point... it's been contradicted by so many studies. Take a look at the MRFIT data:<br /><br />http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2009/07/mrfit-mortality.htmlStephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-46759794432966000192009-10-23T16:27:53.776-07:002009-10-23T16:27:53.776-07:00Dr. B G,
Thanks! I got it from WAPF, this blog, ...Dr. B G,<br /><br />Thanks! I got it from WAPF, this blog, and Heart Scan Blog, which I found here.<br /><br />This online community rocks. I just wish I could get my mother-in-law to read this stuff... along with a million or so other people.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14504810823521044641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-68242880236231498302009-10-23T16:22:39.005-07:002009-10-23T16:22:39.005-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14504810823521044641noreply@blogger.com