tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post8740324679948005906..comments2024-03-28T11:29:46.845-07:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Food Reward FridayStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-76082720976379191812012-12-18T00:00:54.419-08:002012-12-18T00:00:54.419-08:00We are offering gym supplements, gym supplements ...We are offering gym supplements, gym supplements for men and many more on affordable price.For a nice physique try gym supplements and make a good impression on others.Shop by category at the world's largest gym supplement online store. Get the right information about gym supplements to acheive your fitness goals!more : <a href="http://gymsupplements.in" rel="nofollow">Gym Supplements</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00542075152915174234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-47991173658973487622012-12-17T20:43:54.075-08:002012-12-17T20:43:54.075-08:00It was so delicious herbal incense and I love to e...It was so delicious <a href="http://www.legalherbalonline.com/" rel="nofollow">herbal incense</a> and I love to eat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-90704012142313000082012-12-13T21:58:23.742-08:002012-12-13T21:58:23.742-08:00@Peter,
"Bray & Popkin delivering more s...@Peter,<br /><br />"Bray & Popkin delivering more shocks to people like you do not have background in obesity research."<br /><br />The paper was published in 1999. That is ancient history as far as medical research goes. blogbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18029519906193388609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-75016803298441176842012-12-13T21:45:22.945-08:002012-12-13T21:45:22.945-08:00@Peter:
"The results show that eating less f...@Peter:<br /><br />"The results show that eating less fat reduces body weight by 1.6kg, BMI by 0.56kg/m² and waist circumference by 0.5cm."<br /><br />Actually this meta-analysis shows nothing of any consequence. blogbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18029519906193388609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-7534655933381947332012-12-13T17:29:42.434-08:002012-12-13T17:29:42.434-08:00Wow! After reading through Peter's comments br...Wow! After reading through Peter's comments briefly I wondered what he was on about. My mind is blown I think.. ;)<br /><br />Funny though, I continue to eat large amounts of saturated fat, cholesterol, and carbohydrate exclusively in whole form. My co-workers tease my eating habits but they do not understand: this lifestyle keeps me in peak condition. <br /><br />Peter I think you are grossly simplifying our physiology. Your obsession with LDL-C and saturated fat is out of control. Our brain, microbiota, and metabolism are far more complex than you are suggesting.Zacharyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15765341233390228928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-59567413104470178702012-12-10T08:17:52.149-08:002012-12-10T08:17:52.149-08:00Bray & Popkin delivering shocks to laypeople w...Bray & Popkin delivering shocks to laypeople with zero knowledge in the pathophysiology of obesity, that is.<br /><br />Lower energy intake is build-in feature of low-fat diets. In other words, eating a low-fat diet results in eating less.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904866274339527690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-10809929531009777012012-12-10T08:16:30.994-08:002012-12-10T08:16:30.994-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Boghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02344795232476089914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-57780894248171029322012-12-10T08:08:35.379-08:002012-12-10T08:08:35.379-08:00And still waiting for the shock! You missed the op...And still waiting for the shock! You missed the opportunity to learn about the high-quality evidence suggesting strong relationship between dietary fat intake and obesity. <br /><br />Again, it's usefull to mess around Flat-Earth-Society -style without giving studies and experiments a proper context. Yes, fat makes up energy dense calories, and if long-term weight loss is the key, it's better to emphasize tubers and (whole)grains instead of butter or coconut oil. The Tokelauns were often fat on their traditional high-fat diet and the Japanese-people were traditionally lean on their 10% fat diet, just to give you one example. This is not bullet-proof law, since there's some of variation in the individual level but this is about preponderance of evidence, and you are not really in a position to say anything meaningfull about it. Now one has evet gotten fat on quinoa, sweet potatoes and oranges while the same cannot be said with high-energy dense, fat laden foods. <br /><br />Bray & Popkin delivering more shocks to people like you do not have background in obesity research:<br /><br /><b>Dietary fat affects obesity rate</b><br /><br /><i>Since that time, a 6-mo multicenter trial in 400 overweight men and women reported a significantly greater weight loss of 0.94–1.81 kg associated with a decrease in fat intake of 7.9–10% of energy. The control groups in this study gained 0.82–0.18 kg during the same interval. Whether the low-fat diet had complex or simple carbohydrates made no significant difference</i><br /><br /><i>Willett did not address the range of experimental animal and human studies we reviewed, in particular, he did not comment on those that showed the ways that reducing fat with fat modifiers or other means does not lead to full energy compensation. This led to our major point. We did not expect the thermic effect of fat reduction to be important. Rather, we felt that changing the fat content of food had a major effect on energy density, and in turn, this significantly affected total energy intake. <b> In other words, our main argument is that the effect of energy density on food intake affects total energy intake. We used a set of animal and human studies to address this topic.</b> Willett's editorial did not address this half of our paper</i>. <br /><br />http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/4/572.fullPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904866274339527690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-52930405385085595672012-12-10T04:42:18.230-08:002012-12-10T04:42:18.230-08:00Peter
I've just read your 'study of the ye...Peter<br />I've just read your 'study of the year which is likely to cause massive shock'.<br /><br />'...diets lower in total fat on average reduced body weight by 1.6 kg, body mass index by −0.51, and waist circumference by 0.3 cm. ...Although further metabolic studies may reveal a mechanism of action, most studies that reported energy intake suggested lower energy intake in the low fat group than in the control or usual fat groups... This suggests that weight reduction may be due to reduced energy intake in those on low fat diets, rather than a specific effect of the macronutrient composition of the diet. ...'<br /><br />In other words a small effect probably due to reduced energy intake. Now here's what the lead author says. <br /><br />"We didn't consider different types of fat in this study," said Dr Hooper. "But cutting down on saturated fat reduces our risk of heart disease and strokes, so the healthiest way to cut down on fat is to cut down on saturated fats.<br /><br />"This means having low fat milk and yogurt, cutting down on butter and cheese, and cutting the fat off meat. Most importantly have fruit instead of fatty snacks like biscuits, cake and crisps..."<br /><br />So the authors think removing fat-soluble vitamins from dairy products is a good idea. They also seem to think that the problem with biscuits and cakes is not the nearly nutrient-free flour and sugar, but the fat. Does their study support these ideas? No.<br /> <br /><br />Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-69408664240288075752012-12-10T01:39:21.520-08:002012-12-10T01:39:21.520-08:00@Paul,
second opinion of the Tokelaun story is p...@Paul, <br /><br />second opinion of the Tokelaun story is provided by PrimitiveNutrion. Somewhat different story to that of Taubes or Guyenet :) <br /><br /><b>Running a Cholesterol Confusionist Gauntlet, Part 5 --The Tokelauns, the Samburu, and the Masai</b><br /><a rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAOHWUD_TI&list=PLDBBB98ACA18EF67C&index=17</a><br /><br />Pay attention that Tokelauns actually had relatively low cholesterol levels but suffered from wide-spead obesity from their high-fat diet exactly as the new study I cited suggests. In case you do not trust the solid science around the relationship of saturated fats and dietary cholesterol to serum cholesterol, you can always experiment on yourself: eat a diet very rich in butter, coconut butter and egg yolks for a few months have have your lipid panel done. Switch to Dean Ornish style diet that is in congruence with the food reward hypothesis and have your lipids rechecked. Then, holla back at me and tell me your opinion on whether Stephen had it all figured out. <br /><br />Stephen eats now days a high-carbohydrate, plant-based diet. Undoubtedly he'll be soon out of the closet and declare his lipid panel for his audience. He has his background context in the TC 250mg/dl range :) You can actually point this to him and ask him to hurry up in providing us the info from his n=1 case.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904866274339527690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-75399326967881885792012-12-09T20:50:58.326-08:002012-12-09T20:50:58.326-08:00this Peter character wrote
"Stay away from ...this Peter character wrote <br /><br />"Stay away from those saturated fats folks, as the lead author of the study concluded to the press:<br /><br />"...cutting down on saturated fat reduces our risk of heart disease and strokes, so the healthiest way to cut down on fat is to cut down on saturated fats.<br /><br />It's too bad nobody told that to the people of Tokelau, as discussed by Stephan <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ca/search/label/Tokelau" rel="nofollow">in these eleven posts</a>: <br /><br />"Over the time period in question, Tokelauans obtained roughly half their calories from coconut, placing them among the most extreme consumers of saturated fat in the world. Not only was their blood cholesterol lower than the average Westerner, but their hypertension rate was low, and physicians found no trace of previous heart attacks by ECG (age-adjusted rates: 0.0% in Tokelau vs 3.5% in Tecumseh USA). Migrating to New Zealand and cutting saturated fat intake in half was associated with a rise in ECG signs of heart attack (1.0% age-adjusted) (2, 3).<br /><br />Yep, those *lethal* saturated fats...<br /><br />I think I'll take Stephans advice over Peter's anyday... <br />Paul Nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11452852823080926838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-22720725239157522592012-12-09T15:25:43.617-08:002012-12-09T15:25:43.617-08:00I just tried this cereal when my friend was eating...I just tried this cereal when my friend was eating it dry as a snack! Its card-boardy; kinda musty. It reminded me of something that had been around mothballs. <br /><br />Makes me wonder if milk/fluid makes things more palatable, because on its own this cereal tasted horrid.Catthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109018483236614477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-75470479888956262232012-12-09T13:25:33.835-08:002012-12-09T13:25:33.835-08:00"illustrating that in fact most of the calori...<i>"illustrating that in fact most of the calories which many associate with "carbs" actually comes from fat"</i><br /><br />Yes, the 3.5 grams of fat per 120 calorie serving of Kellogg's Krave truly does show how drippingly greasy that fatty, unctuous cereal really is.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092073414860334960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-51462280439524439312012-12-09T12:32:16.046-08:002012-12-09T12:32:16.046-08:00I was caught in a weak moment on my way home from ...I was caught in a weak moment on my way home from work - I was hungry and the bakery right outside my office building sells tasty raisin scones. But I decided to resist, and instead I crossed the street and got a bag of artisan spiced nuts, figuring I would have just one serving and get lots of protein while quelling my hunger. Well, it turns out that the nuts were so damn tasty that I ate the whole bag! Horrors. I guess I should have had the tea biscuit - it would have been half the calories, ironically. Sometimes rewarding food comes in deceptively healthy-seeming packages. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-14517065231277668962012-12-09T11:33:49.523-08:002012-12-09T11:33:49.523-08:00Really nice article!
Check out my health blog for ...Really nice article!<br />Check out my health blog for information about health, information, protein, and fitness.הורדותhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14624197096945767292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-48646767022648702062012-12-09T01:22:06.882-08:002012-12-09T01:22:06.882-08:00rogaine<a href="http://www.rogainescam.com" rel="nofollow">rogaine</a>Bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16507327224182866246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-53621312316076471412012-12-08T15:43:36.778-08:002012-12-08T15:43:36.778-08:00The why do breakfast cereals universally protect a...The why do breakfast cereals universally protect against obesity if they are so rewarding? <br /><br />http://180degreehealth.com/2012/02/breakfast-cereal-causes-obesityAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365617806474358491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-55214248740721287842012-12-07T19:35:05.577-08:002012-12-07T19:35:05.577-08:00thanks.
i probably could eat a ton of those!thanks.<br /><br />i probably could eat a ton of those!Dr. Curmudgeon Geehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14484363083738134100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-78007167942119792562012-12-07T14:35:06.786-08:002012-12-07T14:35:06.786-08:00I'm with Alana. I thought that had to be a jo...I'm with Alana. I thought that had to be a joke!<br />CarbSanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17739915307890592327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-19978185024693719042012-12-07T13:33:23.222-08:002012-12-07T13:33:23.222-08:00The best part is the goopy chocolate fontThe best part is the goopy chocolate fontBen Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02993765107497016319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-6040486046041336622012-12-07T11:20:45.944-08:002012-12-07T11:20:45.944-08:00Seriously?
It is practically a parody of itself. ...Seriously?<br /><br />It is practically a parody of itself. Mr. Kellog is turning in his grave.Alana in Canadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08440969357242099169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-88130095135580482742012-12-07T10:39:53.828-08:002012-12-07T10:39:53.828-08:00There are so many options for Food Reward Friday i...There are so many options for Food Reward Friday in the cereal aisle!! I love this series. So many mind-boggling foods.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01456423200169259854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-267262797352513752012-12-07T06:59:57.321-08:002012-12-07T06:59:57.321-08:00Avoid foods with misspelled words is excellent adv...Avoid foods with misspelled words is excellent advice! Cameohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03015898334721960589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-26158538302881390752012-12-07T06:35:03.483-08:002012-12-07T06:35:03.483-08:00I swear Stephen, you are only posting links to foo...I swear Stephen, you are only posting links to foods I love and do eat!Sol Orwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07568040523053388580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-87117643090623944262012-12-07T06:06:04.389-08:002012-12-07T06:06:04.389-08:00Ups...I forgot to add: this new-meta analysis was ...Ups...I forgot to add: this new-meta analysis was not brought to you by the Kellog company, but was in fact comissioned by the WHO.<br />http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e7666 Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12904866274339527690noreply@blogger.com