tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post2743484121554856064..comments2024-03-28T11:29:46.845-07:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Dogs Eating CarbsStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-35274788685869229622014-12-27T02:19:43.155-08:002014-12-27T02:19:43.155-08:00Did your vet friend give you a funny look because ...Did your vet friend give you a funny look because she had been taught by a pet food manufacturer in her studies that dogs required carbs (notwithstanding the fact that to make a kibble requires a carb ingredient)? It would be interesting to ask him/her more about this I think. deburshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17239441802561232924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-44661028549920150042013-07-05T11:58:42.636-07:002013-07-05T11:58:42.636-07:00I do not understand your use of impeccable !!I do not understand your use of impeccable !!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01833512911020768089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-90624676908629670832013-01-30T01:54:31.838-08:002013-01-30T01:54:31.838-08:00@Bob Bejaan
You have not passed the test.@Bob Bejaan<br />You have not passed the test.Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-88112132297623158162013-01-30T00:03:33.945-08:002013-01-30T00:03:33.945-08:00I'll just keep feeding raw meat, bone & of...I'll just keep feeding raw meat, bone & offal (zero carbs) to my ridiculously healthy 6 year old dog.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06769919048370103837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-73592642213195841322013-01-30T00:02:14.680-08:002013-01-30T00:02:14.680-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06769919048370103837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-69844908069503230032013-01-29T14:06:01.636-08:002013-01-29T14:06:01.636-08:00http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/01/dog-...http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2013/01/dog-domestication-tied-to-starch.html#comment-777292437Fausto Levantesihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09570373488564499346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-48165032276809383452013-01-29T13:23:47.352-08:002013-01-29T13:23:47.352-08:00Checkmate.Checkmate.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00501766801191660291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-28299105913303507252013-01-29T06:57:08.581-08:002013-01-29T06:57:08.581-08:00Connie, cats are not obligate carnivores, that is ...Connie, cats are not obligate carnivores, that is a myth promoted by the meat industry so it can sell its leftover scraps as pet food (most pet food manufacturers are owned by meat processing companies).<br /><br />Yes cats can eat meat and even survive on it (much like humans). But many cats that are fed a meat-based diet will develop illnesses in old age, and few rarely even live beyond 15 years.<br /><br />Vegan cats are much healthier and happier, and often live well into their 40s and 50s with no sign of heart disease or diabetes.<br /><br />The taurine myth is another ridiculous red herring peddled by the meat industry. Cats in the wild obtain most of their taurine from berries and nuts, and the stomach contents of their rodent prey (for those that do occasionally eat other animals).<br /><br />Think about this Connie (if that is your real name): why would God make cats obligate carnivores, and then pass a commandment "thou shalt not kill" that his creations could not obey?<br /><br />Doesn't make sense.Bob Bejaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707925637040501901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-2254234254717437132013-01-28T03:53:17.214-08:002013-01-28T03:53:17.214-08:00@Bob Bejaan
Please could you give us something tha...@Bob Bejaan<br />Please could you give us something that would help us determine whether you are for real? Apparently cats are more difficult to keep on a vegan diet than dogs, and I would be amazed if your cat really was healthy on a vegan diet without extra taurine, for instance. Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-68765507122927492132013-01-27T19:18:07.399-08:002013-01-27T19:18:07.399-08:00cats are obligate carnivores and your take on thei...cats are obligate carnivores and your take on their diet would be interesting.. <br /><br />http://www.catinfo.orgConnie - Tails from the Foster Kittenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01127077337743262149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-36744612198301695802013-01-27T10:00:11.231-08:002013-01-27T10:00:11.231-08:00I have fed my cat a vegan diet for 6 years now and...I have fed my cat a vegan diet for 6 years now and he is thriving on it. Before when I fed him tinned cat food from the store he would scratch my sofa and get grouchy if I didn't get him outside.<br /><br />Now on his new diet (mostly quinoa, legumes and brown rice) he is much happier and better behaved. <br /><br />And for what it's worth Snuggles just loves his saucer of soy milk in the morningBob Bejaanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08707925637040501901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-39520401358233773432013-01-27T05:36:49.312-08:002013-01-27T05:36:49.312-08:00I suppose butyrate is made into beta-hydroxybutyra...I suppose butyrate is made into beta-hydroxybutyrate? In the liver? Via acetyl-CoA?<br /><br />I think it's very interesting. Potatoes are ketogenic!!Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-89935290099606571032013-01-26T10:39:11.817-08:002013-01-26T10:39:11.817-08:00Carbsane,
Supposedly it is because butyrate can&...Carbsane, <br /><br />Supposedly it is because butyrate can't be stored so it must be burned. I can't tell you how it is ketogenic. I just know is that it happens in me and in animals even when eating high carb. http://www.jbc.org/content/135/1/183.full.pdf Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-25983076773697225042013-01-26T07:13:07.704-08:002013-01-26T07:13:07.704-08:00Hi Stephan,
I am looking to feed my dog an ancest...Hi Stephan,<br /><br />I am looking to feed my dog an ancestral diet/real foods diet. What percent carbohydrates do you think dogs can tolerate in their diet? What percent carbohydrates do you think is optimal? And should the sources of carbohydrates be starchy tubers and rice, soaked grains and legumes, or a combination of both?Go Meat!https://www.blogger.com/profile/12229943291883990671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-82268730745078722282013-01-26T04:55:20.828-08:002013-01-26T04:55:20.828-08:00Craig, how do you propose butyrate is converted to...Craig, how do you propose butyrate is converted to ketones? CarbSanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17739915307890592327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-60911118545654507772013-01-26T03:58:18.435-08:002013-01-26T03:58:18.435-08:00Carbsane, go on an equacaloric potato diet and mea...Carbsane, go on an equacaloric potato diet and measure your ketones after a few days. You should find PURPLE on the ketone strips! <br /><br />I have been eating nothing but sweet potatoes and white potatoes with a fatty meal about once or twice a week. Resistant starch and butyrate is very ketogenic in me at least. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-54918917350466795402013-01-26T02:38:11.555-08:002013-01-26T02:38:11.555-08:00Many years ago I spent some time working on a mink...Many years ago I spent some time working on a mink farm in Sweden, and I learned something about feeding captive carnivores. In Sweden, mink were fed on whole fish, and were large and healthy. In Britain, they were fed on fish scraps from the fishmonger, and were not. They needed the whole fish. <br /><br />Perhaps the best diet for dogs is whole freshly killed rabbits. We know that works. But who has access to those? Tinned dogfood has all kinds of dreadful things in it like sick cows and rotting carcasses. The evidence I have seen suggests a vegan diet is better. Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-50650901198454583792013-01-25T17:39:04.396-08:002013-01-25T17:39:04.396-08:00@ George Henderson -
Raisins are toxic to dogs. ...@ George Henderson - <br /><br />Raisins are toxic to dogs. So are onions and garlic. Just FYI - hope folks are being careful.Mavishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06994797939492751433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-43296369878487862442013-01-25T14:30:02.984-08:002013-01-25T14:30:02.984-08:00"Wolves eating berries!" http://www.yout..."Wolves eating berries!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmuYTb6ynbg <br /><br />Wolves and wild dogs are both scientifically classified as facultative carnivores, which differs from obligate carnivores and carnivore by itself does not mean "eats only meat." Nature is rarely as simple as most people assume.Paleo Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04638692477055356361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-12490763021164480742013-01-25T11:03:47.916-08:002013-01-25T11:03:47.916-08:00Wolves an ancestral dog for both omnivores. One of...Wolves an ancestral dog for both omnivores. One of the things a wolf eats after it kills its prey are its intestinal contents.<br />Fat Bastardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839915109115122588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-29607159191084146592013-01-25T09:44:46.812-08:002013-01-25T09:44:46.812-08:00Being able to digest starch better than a wolf doe... Being able to digest starch better than a wolf doesn't mean much- they did not do a comparison study finding out exactly how much nutritional content wolves vs. dogs derive from starches. Just because dogs have been shown to be able to digest starch better than wolves doesn't mean they do it WELL, just better. If wolves having only two genes for amylase digest starch very very poorly, it doesn't mean that dogs are great at digesting starch just because they have more genes for it. Better than wolves, but not necessarily great overall. Not to mention that the article mentioned some dogs in the study only had four copies of the gene for amylase... That's hardly any better than wolves.nadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07061026460519673549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-89315236051555298242013-01-25T04:58:30.617-08:002013-01-25T04:58:30.617-08:00@Miki
"Chimpanzees eat mainly fruit but most...@Miki<br /><br /><i>"Chimpanzees eat mainly fruit but most of their calories come from fat via fiber fermentation by bacteria. Carbs compose only 30% or so of the caloric value of their diet. See calculations and references here "</i><br /><br />SCFA's are not "fats" <br />http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2011/02/when-is-fat-fat.html<br /><br />Chimps may indeed convert SCFA to LCFA through de novo lipogenesis somewhere intermediate to ruminants (almost all) and humans (almost none), but this is not the same as ingesting LCFA.<br />CarbSanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17739915307890592327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-56419480237264912862013-01-25T02:23:10.668-08:002013-01-25T02:23:10.668-08:00@Kevin Ash
Yes, your account of vegan dogs corresp...@Kevin Ash<br />Yes, your account of vegan dogs corresponds with what I have read. I didn't believe it at first but once I had read enough I had to. These dogs can be extremely healthy, and are long-lived and good natured. <br /><br />@George<br />'Jane, I wouldn't believe everything I read on vegan websites.'<br />What is it in the link I gave that I should not have believed? Did you read it? Or did you avoid it for fear of contamination?Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18175128589806816624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-69643709702879817322013-01-24T23:26:52.211-08:002013-01-24T23:26:52.211-08:00Thanks for sharing information...
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