tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post7618558020948584413..comments2024-03-27T23:47:41.656-07:00Comments on Whole Health Source: Tropical Plant Fats: Coconut Oil, Part IIStephan Guyenethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-10957263297042304002010-11-22T16:44:46.515-08:002010-11-22T16:44:46.515-08:00Nice post.
Have you found any new studies on unr...Nice post. <br /><br />Have you found any new studies on unrefined coconut oil and humans?<br /><br />Cheers, <br /><br />KAPKEITH POWERShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01682256502385968889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-39529167070270459402010-11-15T10:06:31.063-08:002010-11-15T10:06:31.063-08:00For anyone who thinks it is hard to use coconut oi...For anyone who thinks it is hard to use coconut oil, use coconut milk! Coconut milk should be at least as good as coconut oil in terms of "minor constituents". You can make a delicious smoothie with equal parts of frozen fruit and refrigerated coconut milk. A little extra sweetener might be your liking, but it isn't necessary. Strawberry/pineapple, peach/cherry/pineapple, and blueberry/pomegranate are our favorites.David Pierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16326578313240027846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-72466147159506316422010-10-23T23:18:40.990-07:002010-10-23T23:18:40.990-07:00Is there anything particularly healthful or nutrit...Is there anything particularly healthful or nutritious about Coconut sugar? <br /><br />I'm looking to use Cerylon Cinnamon, or Coconut sugar as an alternative to the more mainstream alternatives... stevia (Sweet Leaf, Puritan's Pride), sugar alcohols (Xylitol/Erythritol), luo han guo extracts (Sweet Fiber), Orange Peel / Chicory Root (JustLikeSugarInc) or sucrose/fructose/ (whey low)...<br /><br />Does coconut sugar have any of the good properties of coconut oil?benn686https://www.blogger.com/profile/14415571820563632059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-84842648298683365502010-09-08T07:17:29.270-07:002010-09-08T07:17:29.270-07:00"humans aren't rats"
Exactly. And r..."humans aren't rats"<br /><br />Exactly. And rats aren't humans - specifically they are adapted to eat grains, and we are not. We need to very cautious in drawing conclusions about human nutrition from studies of rodent nutrition.Steve_Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741170426828516479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-63988159386788431352010-08-30T14:45:26.531-07:002010-08-30T14:45:26.531-07:00I figured that I'd chime in, what with all the...I figured that I'd chime in, what with all the people claiming that coconut oil impedes fat loss. Personally, I find I can successfully lose weight only when I include a good amount of coconut oil. I have no idea why, but I feel much better, more energetic, and the weight comes off faster with fewer side-effects.<br /><br />I just eat plain spoonfuls of the stuff. Virgin coconut oil isn't so bad that way.bovinedefenestrationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02079182445151708773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-72026017845789208402010-08-27T12:49:03.217-07:002010-08-27T12:49:03.217-07:00Thanks JBG.Thanks JBG.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-59396134724847063692010-08-27T09:19:28.460-07:002010-08-27T09:19:28.460-07:00Hi John,
I'm really not sure. It could be th...Hi John,<br /><br />I'm really not sure. It could be the different species, or the dietary context, or both.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-62657691157229898132010-08-27T05:58:14.245-07:002010-08-27T05:58:14.245-07:00Stephan,
Comparing coconut oil to beef tallow, pl...Stephan,<br /><br />Comparing coconut oil to beef tallow, plasma insulin and glucose are lower in the CO group (calves) but the CO group had an 18-fold increase in hepatic triglycerides. Is this necessarily a negative?<br /> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10655979<br /><br />In rats, when comparing fish oil to coconut oil, the hepatic trigs go down w/ more coconut oil<br /><br />http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/117/6/1011<br /><br />Now this is what I would expect. Care to offer your idea? Is it simply a matter of different animals?Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161850700121191487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-88053113303678736872010-08-26T19:35:53.147-07:002010-08-26T19:35:53.147-07:00Thanks, Stephan, for pointing me to your review of...Thanks, Stephan, for pointing me to your review of the meta-study. I was hoping you had written one!Roger L. Cauvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08969779835314260680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-11849408430052614762010-08-26T12:03:27.951-07:002010-08-26T12:03:27.951-07:00Chris M - I'm thinking that maybe he's ref...Chris M - I'm thinking that maybe he's referring to inulin which can be made from chicory?pootihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02215075249551630327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-77665084789095458492010-08-25T16:05:37.658-07:002010-08-25T16:05:37.658-07:00Hi Roger,
Yes, I reviewed it here:
http://wholeh...Hi Roger,<br /><br />Yes, I reviewed it here:<br /><br />http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/03/leave-your-brain-at-door.html<br /><br />I'm dismayed that a paper of such poor quality made it through the peer review process. They blatantly ignored their own selection criteria.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-85374737607774138542010-08-25T15:04:18.486-07:002010-08-25T15:04:18.486-07:00Stefan, I was wondering if you had analyzed this m...Stefan, I was wondering if you had analyzed this meta-study that concluded switching from saturated fats to polyunsaturated fats from vegetable oils lowered the incidence of heart disease:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/9dAz9s<br /><br />They conclude:<br /><br />"These findings provide evidence that consuming PUFA in place of SFA reduces CHD events in RCTs. This suggests that rather than trying to lower PUFA consumption, a shift toward greater population PUFA consumption in place of SFA would significantly reduce rates of CHD."Roger L. Cauvinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08969779835314260680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-38372241685861823882010-08-25T04:59:59.720-07:002010-08-25T04:59:59.720-07:00This is an excellent post on health.
It is very in...This is an excellent post on health.<br />It is very informative and interesting. I really appreciate your blog.<br /><br />IF someone want to know more about <a href="http://www.radconsultancy.com" rel="nofollow">Reactive attachment disorder</a>. You can contact us.<br />And Visit our blog : http://radconsultancycom.blogspot.com/radconsultancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05498952369811388689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-4157818872882168252010-08-24T19:16:46.442-07:002010-08-24T19:16:46.442-07:00Stephan, this is a great and informative post. I ...Stephan, this is a great and informative post. I have a question going back to you interview with Jimmy Moore. You cited the benefits of oligofructose and chicory root. I've been looking at this subject since but I can't figure out which products/supplements derived from chicory root have sufficient oligofructose content. Can you please advise? Would dried chicory root (brewed as coffee) sufficient? What specific products/sources/amounts would you recommend?<br /><br />Best regards,<br /><br />Chris MChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17600952383643890249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-72824614251908857352010-08-23T13:19:34.057-07:002010-08-23T13:19:34.057-07:00Hi David,
I beg to differ. Other important facto...Hi David,<br /><br />I beg to differ. Other important factors include plaque stability, hemostasis, susceptibility to fibrillation, myocardial susceptibility to hypoxic damage, and certainly others. In aggregate, these factors are probably more influential of heart attack risk than atherosclerosis itself. Atherosclerosis has been emphasized at the expense of these other factors, probably because it's a visible process that is also related to blood lipids. <br /><br />The studies of non-industrial cultures that don't suffer from heart attacks make it clear that atherosclerosis per se is not sufficient for increased heart attack risk (to a point). Several autopsy studies in Africa indicated that individuals with atherosclerosis similar to Western adults (and age-matched) weren't having infarctions. These were very large studies and about as close to definitive as we're going to get. The authors speculated that Africans have a much lower clotting tendency and this underlied their lack of heart attacks. In support of that, they cited studies showing much lower rates of embolism in Africa.Stephan Guyenethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218114625524777250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-66843389775337159472010-08-23T04:04:07.621-07:002010-08-23T04:04:07.621-07:00Good study! Though there is lots of benefits from ...Good study! Though there is lots of benefits from coconut oil but its taste is not good at all. I’ve tasted a south Indian food once made by coconut oil. It was awful.<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.evolveselection.co.uk/index.php?target=article&task=cat&cat=7" rel="nofollow">Healthcare Recruitment</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00958296561372691552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-18372148981589997022010-08-23T01:15:18.807-07:002010-08-23T01:15:18.807-07:00"Keep in mind that atherosclerosis is only on..."Keep in mind that atherosclerosis is only one factor in heart attack risk."<br /><br />wow, you are really stretching Stephan! Atherosclerosis is more than "only one factor" in heart attack risk - in all but rare cases it is the sine qua non of heart attack risk.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05919754493929551565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-89918123732990886102010-08-22T22:48:21.147-07:002010-08-22T22:48:21.147-07:00very good study about Heart Disease.very good study about Heart Disease.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-87301187021316642752010-08-22T18:55:33.007-07:002010-08-22T18:55:33.007-07:00Thank you so much Stephan for providing these sour...Thank you so much Stephan for providing these sources for us! It really helps out those who need to see the actual literature, rather than go on what other people tell us. You're awesome in my book.Brandonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18345385045024700602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-67757249926387998172010-08-22T03:53:42.408-07:002010-08-22T03:53:42.408-07:00Here's that post on red vs refined palm oil an...Here's that post on <a href="http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.com/2010/08/refined-vs-red-palm-oil-and-cholesterol.html" rel="nofollow">red vs refined palm oil and cholesterol</a> I mentioned earlier. Also a couple of comparison studies between palm oil and coconut oil referenced in there.<br /><br />At least where I live, red palm oil is a lot cheaper than virgin coconut oil (although I use both).<br /><br />- JLLJLLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200324973565346888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-54202949223127743822010-08-21T18:24:36.690-07:002010-08-21T18:24:36.690-07:00I hail from Kerala in southern India where coconut...I hail from Kerala in southern India where coconut forms a huge part of the calorific intake. However, not much coconut oil is consumed. Most of the coconut used is of the fresh, grated variety. Some is in the form of fresh, green coconut (which is low in fat), and some in the form of coconut milk.<br /><br />All that fiber probably has something to with the fact that people from this part of India have traditionally been lean and healthy.beehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18128812845273224940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-25602475113064491552010-08-21T17:39:04.145-07:002010-08-21T17:39:04.145-07:00Thanks for the info John and Anna!
Malpaz,
I use ...Thanks for the info John and Anna!<br /><br />Malpaz,<br />I use coconut oil, along with ghee and lard, to replace vegetable oil for cooking. If it contributes to fat loss, then that's ok too. But from what I've been learning on this awesome blog, there's compelling evidence to suggest our choice of cooking oils/fats have a great impact on our whole health, whereas our choice of antioxidants... not so much. I think half the battle is knowing which ones to fight:)<br />JKJeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13014028107352539676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-14729385897406169602010-08-21T10:21:37.958-07:002010-08-21T10:21:37.958-07:00coconut oil reminds me of acai berries as the next...coconut oil reminds me of acai berries as the next big thing...everyone promotes their weightloss abilities and oh so healthfulness... kind of like the vitamin D which i only think people should be supplementing if they dont go outside<br /><br /><br />i dont use coconut oil for consumption just on my skin periodically, or vita D personally. i read excess vita D is stored as fat(maybe an evolutionary adaption??)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-83027416702732828712010-08-21T07:46:14.418-07:002010-08-21T07:46:14.418-07:00Jee,
I have Fallon & Enig's Eat Fat, Lose...Jee,<br /><br />I have Fallon & Enig's Eat Fat, Lose Fat book. I don't recall that much of the non-recipe text is very different from other WAPF info or other coconut-boosting books (Bruce Fife, etc.), but I have made a number of the recipes and they are generally good. There are a couple of chicken recipes I particularly liked and have adapted, as well as an easy Thai-inspired coconut milk soup. <br /><br />I think you are right about suggesting Thai and other Southeast Asian-inspired recipes for coconut oil use. Coconut oil often just isn't going to taste right in many American and European origin recipes. For instance, I'm not wild about cooking my over-easy eggs in coconut oil, yet I love coconut milk baked egg custard. I also cook non-grain pancakes for my son in coconut oil or a blend of coconut oil and ghee/butter (mashed half banana, generous tablespoon almond butter, beaten egg, optional tablespoon Dutch process cocoa powder). With meat and poultry recipes, "Eastern" spices such as ginger, cardamon, lemongrass, tumeric/curry blends and so on are natural partners to the taste of coconut oil and coconut milk.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17033443643442246531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1629175743855013102.post-64035102929459838682010-08-21T06:55:59.887-07:002010-08-21T06:55:59.887-07:00Moataz,
There are several studies showing fat los...Moataz,<br /><br />There are several studies showing fat loss benefits with coconut oil consumption--just do a Pubmed search.<br /><br />Jee,<br /><br />It's okay, but if you're familiar with WAPF articles, I wouldn't recommend it.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05161850700121191487noreply@blogger.com